replace split rims? or keep them

[woodslip]

.well i bought a truck.....f600 dump truck that is....now i am in the process of getting it ready for inspection...biggest obstical.....rear tires with split rims......finding someone to mount them......thinking about changing over to non split rims .....if possible.....

 

[Fellro]

That is the hard part, it can be a problem to find rims that will bolts, and then the expense. It depends what shops you talk to as well, there are still some that do them, but most do not any more. Even some that do ag tires won't touch them any more. I know of a couple shops around here that do them, but that is it. The whole thin about it is you have to know what you are doing, and be very certain about that. The newer people coming into the tire business don't know them that well, and since it is getting to be a small part of the market, simply won't do them.

 

[SuperCab]

Hmm... Good question.

IDK where you live, but there's probably an old timer around that'll do the split rims.

You can do them yourself too... It's not all that hard. If you could find a shop that would at least break the bead for you, you could do the rest yourself...

 

[TexasNomad]

I know most tire shops around here won't touch widow makers.

 

[SuperCab]

Have you ever met any of the widows they made?

 

[TexasNomad]

no I usually don't ask for names and address's mat.

 

[TexasNomad]

And if I remember right, in Texas its illegal to run split rims..

 

[Blue Goose]

Most of the tire shops used to have cages for airing up the split rims and I've seen tire men use chains where a cage wasn't available.

 

[TexasRho83]

Since when did they make it illegal to run split rims? Bought an old 78 F250 with splits back in '97 and I had it inspected and everything...even found some goodyear wranglers for it at some mexican shop, paid em an extra $20 and they put em on for me

 

[TexasNomad]

When I was working at Penske, we were not allowed to touch slip rims and I remember being told that it was illegal to run splits on class 4 trucks.

 

[TexasRho83]

Don't know what 's up with that cause like I said, my truck was inspected and legal...

 

[surewhynot]

Have you ever met any of the widows they made?

I saw a co worker first hand get killed by one when I was a teenager working in the quarry. That scared me away from them for life.

 

[TexasNomad]

Every old timer in the tire biz I've met had a long list of co workers and or employees being killed by splits.

 

[blacksnapon]

Done hundreds of them. Split rings, split wheels (yes, wheels), split ring tubeless. Just pay attention to what you're doing.

 

[woodslip]

well I found a shop in Batavia ny ....sloats tire shop.....the guy told me his fathers father taught him...and his father taught him...and so on....25 dollars
a wheel......plus 25 for new tubes...........
took the truck to a garage to have the tires looked at..before I get it inspected.......guy told me needed new tires...no surprise......then when I went to start the old beast ...it wont start......guy told me should have told me to keep going......was pretty embarrassing......he was quite rude......
but did get me going....
by the way have a starter issue also.....starter disengages after about
5 to 10 seconds.....are these hard to rebuild.....did some about 30 yr. ago
don't remember much.....thanks

 

[Fellro]

You've never said what motor you have, or year. The starter may not be that expensive to just trade in. But it does sound like maybe the bendix has failed, which isn't an overly big deal to change.

 

[5.0]

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f600 dump truck = dual rear wheels?

Remove cores from valve stems letting all the air out. Remove wheels and tires from truck. Take wheel apart and replace tube and tire. Put wheel back together with new tire and tube installed. Put in a few pounds of air. Put wheels back on truck. Air up to normal inflation pressure.

Most split rims when used in a dual wheel application will have the rings on the inside, where the two tires are close together. In the unlikely event that a ring would come loose, it can't go anywhere because it's in between the two tires/wheels. I change 10.00-20 tires for rail containers on split rims every so often, but never air them up unless they're on a trailer.

Just a FYI, there are tubes for bias tires and tubes for radial tires, so be sure to get the right ones.

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[woodslip]

well i lucked out .....sloats in batavia ny....had a set of tires for $110 apiece
they were great